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A Comprehensive List of Changes in Persona 5 Royal (Prologue to 5/2)

Introduction

Purpose

I wanted to create a comprehensive list of every last change I could find between the old game and the new game both to help players discover things that they may have missed, and to give people making walkthroughs or optimal daily guides an outline that will save them some time when writing up their own material.

Methodology and notes about this list

This list is intended to document changes on a semi-specific level. I am simply listing things that I notice while playing through the game. I am being pretty meticulous with my documentation, but this list is not designed to document every single minor detail (such as individual stat changes to weapons and items or arcana-type changes to personas, for example). I am noting whatever I can as I go along and looking things up to verify that they have been changed if I can find a video or wiki article on the old game.
I also intend for this guide to be as spoiler-free as possible in regards to the story, so even though I am writing down all the new things I notice, I will leave information about cutscenes and story elements as vague as I can so as not to ruin the experience for anyone.
To keep things maintainable, I have broken up the list up into logical date spans from the last deadline of the previous palace to the deadline for the next palace; the first list covers the prologue to the deadline for Kamoshida's palace, the second from the day after Kamoshida's deadline to Madarame's deadline, and so on and so forth.

About the author

I played Persona 5 and am currently playing through P5R on a PS4 Pro but have not tried the PS3 version of the game. I completed my first run and New Game+ back-to-back on 11/11/2019 and 1/12/2020 respectively, so the game is still fairly fresh on my mind. I spent ~250 hours on the base game, a good chunk of which was devoted to optimizing a perfect roster of personas for Joker in NG+. I have gotten the Platinum Trophy for Persona 5.

Changes (Prologue to 5/2)

Technical

Graphics & Performance

  • Most if not all of the textures and models in the game appear to have been updated, and look a lot cleaner now that the game is not limited to the PS3's comparatively low texture cache size.
  • Less aliasing (read: "jagged edges") on in-game models and geometry (not sure if this is due to the PS4 Pro's 4k upscaling or an anti-aliasing post processing effect.)
  • Far fewer loading screens/reduced loading times.

Saves and PSN

  • There is an autosave feature to save progress towards Thieves Den rewards; it does not create a new save for you to return to. This progress is retained across playthroughs.
  • There is no longer a separate blue "network save" slot.
  • You can now take screenshots and video clips up to late December (I haven't tested this yet myself as I haven't gotten that far), after which they are blocked.
  • Most (but not all) of the achievements have been updated, and they generally seem to be much less completionistic than the previous game. There are no achievements for ranking up all confidants, getting all vending machine items, clearing all mementos requests, etc. You could probably complete all the achievements in a single playthrough as long as you're paying attention to getting them; I haven't seen any that require a NG+ run.

Sound Effects & Music

  • There seem to be quite a few more ambient sound effects that weren't in the base game (like clanking chains/cages in Kamoshida's palace), but I'm mostly playing with headphones now, so I could just be noticing them more.
  • There are 20-30 new songs that have been added to the soundtrack.

Gameplay

Story & Cutscenes

  • A number of characters that show up later in the game make brief cameos and show up in various places around Tokyo much earlier than they did in the base game.
  • Kamoshida can now be seen walking around the school after 4/18 and can be talked to for some more verbal abuse.
  • The prologue also has a new in-engine cutscene that introduces Kasumi Yoshizawa.
  • On 4/12, there is a new interactive cutscene that introduces the protagonist to Kasumi for the first time during a subway ride to school.
  • On 4/18, there is another interactive cutscene with Kasumi and Kawakami.

Daily Life

  • There are quite a few new side conversations with NPC's that hint at the new activities and areas added to Tokyo in P5R.
  • All of the classroom questions seem to have been changed.
  • Bad weather will improve the knowledge gained by studying in the library.
  • The tutorial for studying in the library also mentions that you may overhear students talking about you, which will reduce knowledge gained but increase guts. In P5, the description indicated that studying despite the noise would raise guts, I do not know how this has actually been adjusted, if at all.
  • "Speed Reader" is a new book available in the library that can reduce the number of times you need to read a book to finish it. It is checked out initially, but will be available on 7/1 near the deadline to Kaneshiro's palace.
  • Triple Seven (the convenience store) now pays ¥3500+ instead of ¥2800+, making it now pay more than the flower shop (¥3200+) per shift.
  • Rafflesia (the flower shop) now only offers afternoon shifts. Previously you could work there in the afternoons or evenings.
  • Working at Triple Seven now also improves your Charm stat.
  • Triple Seven now offers a rewards point program that gives extra points on any day of the month with a 7 in it. On these days, more customers will come to the shop, allowing you to earn more Charm points and money than usual.
  • There is a new Sports Store in the underground mall that sells some new consumables, accessories, and (presumably) confidant gifts for Ryuji. This store replaces the record label shop.
  • A few of the shops in the underground mall now sell male confidant gifts.
  • The Shibuya Diner on central street has been renamed to "Bikkuri Boy" and is closed until May.
  • The batting cages now offer different activities based on the time of day. At night, you can swing as much as you want, but there are no prizes. Hitting three home runs at night earns you a coupon for a free daytime session.
  • Some books now have a prerequisite Knowledge level in order to read them.
  • Studying at one of the booths in LeBlanc during bad weather will now increase the amount of knowledge points gained.
  • You can use the cleaning tools in the restroom of LeBlanc to improve your Kindness stat during the evenings, and also gain points towards Sojiro's social link.
  • You can now sit and reflect on the toilet in LeBlanc, which will give you hints as to how close you are to improving each of your social stats.
  • Cleaning up the bookshelf in your room on 4/18 or later will reward you with a few new books to read.
  • Cleaning out the rest of your room on 4/18 or later will also give you a CRT TV, although it does not include a tuner so you cannot receive TV blurbs from your room.
  • The CRT TV is now replaced with a DVD player at the secondhand shop.
  • Scarlet (the DVD rental shop) now requires you to pay a ¥4800 annual membership fee that allows you to rent any DVD you want for an unlimited period of time at no cost. You are only able to have one DVD rented out at a time.
  • I believe this was in the previous game, but there is now a tutorial that points out that you can solve crossword puzzles at the far table (near the restroom) at LeBlanc on certain days without causing time to progress.
  • You can now explore Yongen-Jaya at night on 4/21 instead of 4/22.
  • After exploring the Metaverse, you can now perform activities within LeBlanc and your room, even without Kawakami's confidant bonuses.
  • You will now get text messages from part-time jobs on busy days, where you can potentially earn more social points and money.
  • On busy days, the convenience store will have a performance challenge much like the Beef Bowl Shop, where you will need to remember barcode locations and then recall them when scanning items.

Palaces

  • The prologue sequence at Sae Nijima's casino now has a tutorial sequence that shows the player how to use the grappling hook.
  • Individual party members will now occasionally have things to say when in a safe room.
  • Morgana gives you a few starter items and infiltration tools when officially infiltrating Kamoshida's palace for the first time after 4/18.
  • You can now loot nearby treasure chests and breakable objects while in cover.
  • Shadows have new lines of dialog that they will occasionally say when wandering around.
  • Treasure chests now make a glittery sound effect to let you know that one is nearby.
  • There are new visual and audio effects on safe room doors that make them more obvious.
  • Many of the puzzles have been modified and some new ones have been added.
  • The grappling hook will now allow you to access new areas in palaces where hidden pathways or treasure might be found.
  • Will Seeds are new collectables that can be found in each palace. Finding one will restore a little bit of SP to the party, and finding all three of a palaces Will Seeds will reward the player with a unique accessory.
  • With the inclusion of the Will Seeds and grappling hook, a number of areas in each palace have been changed or added.
  • Boss fights have a few new sequences and attack animations, but are fairly similar to their counterparts in Persona 5.

Combat

  • Guns now replenish all ammo after each fight, the rationale (according to Morgana) is that Shadows will be expecting you to come at them fully loaded. The gun tutorial fight in Kamoshida's palace now has a second encounter to show off this new change.
  • Take Over now plays during ambush attacks instead of Last Surprise. Last Surprise will still play during normal encounters and enemy ambushes.
  • Baton passes are no longer linked to confidant ranks and can be used as soon as 4/18.
  • Performing a baton pass four times in a row will now allow the final party member to use a skill without consuming any SP or HP.
  • Enemies in each encounter seem to be much less homogenous than in the base game, possibly to encourage the player to take advantage of baton passes.
  • Savage enemies are a new variation of regular enemies that have to be damaged somewhat before the player can perform a Hold Up.
  • Disaster Shadows are a new type of enemy that will only counterattack if attacked by the player first. They can also occasionally perform follow-up attacks. Upon death, they will drop an item and explode, damaging any other shadows. The amount of collateral damage that they do is based on the amount of "overflow" damage that is done to them by the player when they die. If they die due to reflected damage or Despair, they will not explode or drop any items.
  • Asking a shadow to join you when you already have one of them in your stock now grants extra experience to the persona in your stock.
  • Asking a shadow you already have in your stock will usually yeild better rewards. Shadows in your compendium but not in your stock will ask to join you first before giving you money or items.
  • Items gained through negotiation vary from enemy to enemy; they have fixed common and rare drops (common being something like a Life Stone, while rare might net you a Balm of Life). These can also be stolen using Joker's Pickpocket ability from Magician Rank 5.

Items & Equipment

  • The stats and prices for most (if not all) equipment has been altered at Untouchable. In general, gun accuracy and damage seems to have gone down while prices have gone up (presumably due to the ammo replenishment change). The accessories that are initially available are completely different than in P5.
  • Crafting infiltration tools during bad weather will now allow you to make an additional tool.
  • The "Stealthanol" infiltration tool has been replaced by "Calming Aroma" which seems to have the same effect (lowers security level).
  • The "Element Set" infiltration tool has been broken down into it's four component items (Moltov Cocktail, Freeze Spray, Stun Gun, and Air Cannon)
  • Some accessories now have bonus skills attached to them, which can be used by any persona that the player has equipped.
  • If you find an item in a chest that is stronger than the one currently equipped on Joker or a party member, they will prompt you to let them equip it automatically.
  • The home shopping channel on Sundays now offers bundles of a variety of items, rather than a single item. You will now have to choose between different options. Keep in mind that you can only purchase one and will miss out on the other, so choose carefully!
  • All gear that can be washed at the laundromat now is described as "sooty".
  • There are quite a few new types of gear, and old gear has been rebalanced as well.

Personas & The Velvet Room

  • There is a unique appearance for the Velvet Room loading screens.
  • There are quite a few new personas that have been added.
  • Some personas have had their arcana changed, and there are now a few new arcana as well.
  • After you have officially infiltrated Kamoshida's palace for the first time, you will be able to access Challenge Battles in the Velvet Room by speaking to Justine.
  • Challenge battles allow you to earn rewards through battles that focus on specific mechanics like Baton Passes or Technical damage, battles that test your endurance, or battles with persona users from previous games.

Confidants

  • Tae Takemi's voice actress has been changed from Kirsten Potter to Abby Trott (who also voices Annette in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, one of my favorite VA's in the game)
  • Some of the confidant cutscenes have either had new dialog added, or have been overhauled completely.
  • Most of the confidant cutscenes now give more conversation opportunities to gain points towards the next rank-up.
  • Some confidant abilities have been altered, replaced, or shuffled around to unlock at different ranks than before.
  • Tae Takemi's confidant now has a Guts prerequisite after level 1.

Dialog & UI

  • Party members now cycle through three portrait angles (instead of just one in P5) with 2-3 expressions each. The general pattern is head down (sad, angry) head tilted up and back (surprised, happy) and then all of the normal portraits from P5. There don't seem to be any new portraits for non-party confidants or named characters (like Shiho)
  • Some of the NPC's are now voiced, like the parcel deliveryman that directs you to Cafe Leblanc when you are attempting to find Sojiro Sakurai's house.
  • There are a significant amount of localization fixes for both voice and text dialog as well.
  • The dialog indicators (i.e. "whisper whisper" "chatter" etc.) over NPC's that you can listen to or talk to will be grayed-out after interacting with them to let you know that you've already interacted with them.
  • Many interactions with confidants that were previously text-only are now voiced.
  • Phone conversations now show the portrait of the person you're talking to next to the text box.
  • The chat app on Joker's phone now has an animated background effect. (Falling flower petals right now, not sure if it changes as the seasons/weather changes yet)
  • Shadows and other entities now have special effects on their dialog boxes when speaking.
  • Transition animations when moving between areas have changed due to the reduced loading times. Some of them (like the subway animation) will also change depending on the time of day/weather.
  • The glyphs for the Playstation button controls in the tutorial prompts are now colored and shaped like the actual button used instead of being a more generic red-colored character.
  • Tutorial pop-ups now allow you to go back-and-forth between sections using the left and right buttons on the d-pad.
  • There is now a new "Order Obtained" tab under the inventory interface that sorts items from newest to oldest.
  • There is no longer an "Urgent" category of infiltration tools (as of 4/17). These have been grouped into the "Palace" category of tools.
  • In addition to sorting by Aracana and Level, you can now sort the Persona Compendium alphabetically.
  • The Persona compendium now has a mask icon next to any personas that you already have in your stock.
  • There is now a "I need to speak with Igor" option if you accidentally back out of the persona fusion/itemization menu.
  • Pressing the touch pad now does more than just showing what other players have done on the same day as you (though that is still an option). It can bring up Assist Commands, which allow you to view recommendations on which confidant you should spend time with, view suggestions for which activities to do, and quickly travel to the hideout with a single button press.
  • There are now minimap icons for confidants.
  • Confidant abilities that carry over from the previous game now have more descriptive text. (i.e. Ryuji's "Punk Talk" ability now specifies that it only works on upbeat-type shadows.)
  • Pressing R2 on a piece of equipment that has a passive ability or modifier will show a more detailed description of said effect.
  • There is now a new effect that indicates when a party member has been powered-up by a baton pass. It will change color from red->yellow->blue for each successive pass.
  • During combat, there are new status indicators by a shadow's name that show all of their current buffs and debuffs.
  • Instead of just auto-healing the group, pressing square while in a palace now gives the player the option to quickly use some common infiltration tools like smokescreens, Goho-M's, and Calming Aromas.
  • You can now target specific enemies and points of cover by using the d-pad while hiding.
  • Map scrolling speed has been increased significantly.
  • Palace maps now have an indicator that keeps track of what Will Seeds you have collected so far.
  • The battle summary screen animations have been sped up significantly.
  • The animation that plays when going to the next day will be different when sending a calling card.

Miscellaneous QoL

  • Aside from the infamous first walk to school, most interactions that involve going somewhere new or following another character will be more guided, preventing the player from getting lost (like when Ryuji shows you the way to the airsoft shop for the first time)

Disclaimer

I have tried to document all of the changes that I have noticed from the base game, but there is a good chance that I have overlooked things and/or have noticed something "new" that was actually in the base game.
Feel free to point out any errors in this post or contribute via the Github link, as this is intended to be a living document with frequent updates.

Contributors

u/Fluxriflex, u/TenebrisTempestas, u/kn0bbulo, u/IndigoGamma, u/heliphael, u/DerpDepartment, u/SSJ5Gogetenks, u/AkhasicRay
If you would like to contribute, feel free to submit any changes at this GitHub repository, or, for small changes, feel free to message me or leave a comment. You can also report innacuracies or missing information through GitHub's issue tracker if you are not familiar with how Git works.

Final Words

Due to Reddit's character limitations on posts, I am going to break these change lists up into separate posts, with the deadline for each palace being the delimiting factor. This first one covers all changes found between the prologue and 5/2, which is the deadline for the first palace.
Thank you so much for reading, and a huge thanks to everyone who has helped out so far!

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The Case Of Omar Radad (Rewrite)

THE CASE OF OMAR RADAD The Omar Raddad Affair was a highly publicised criminal trial in Mougins, France in 1991. After the murder of Ghislaine Marchal, Marchal's gardener Omar Raddad was arrested. Defended at his trial by Jacques Vergès, Raddad was convicted 1994, and sentenced to 18 years in prison. Raddad always maintained his innocence. Raddad received a partial pardon from French President Jacques Chirac in 1996 at the request of Moroccan King Hassan II, which reduced his sentence to 4 years and 8 months, and was released from prison in 1998.
The misspelled sentence "Omar m'a tuer" ("Omar killed me"), found written in blood at the crime scene, became a widely used phrase in French society during the 1990s. The last word of the sentence is not properly conjugated; it should read: "Omar m'a tuée". Skeptics contended that this is an odd mistake for a native French speaker to make. The mistake is understandable, however, since both tuer and tuée are pronounced [ty.e]. The case was the subject of the 2011 film Omar m'a tuer by Roschdy Zem.
Description of the events
The facts
Born Ghislaine de Renty, Ghislaine Marchal was the daughter of an industrialist who was engaged in the Resistance during the Second World War and died in deportation. Divorced from her first husband, with whom she had a son, in 1991 she was the wealthy widow of Jean-Pierre Marchal, owner of a famous company that supplied equipment for automobiles[1] , and sister-in-law of the president of the Paris Bar Council Bernard de Bigault du Granrut. She split her time between her main house in Switzerland and her villa La Chamade, which she had built in the hills of Mougins[citation needed].
Ghislaine Marchal disappeared
On Sunday 23 June 1991, around 11:48am, Ghislaine Marchal, having just got out of the shower, is chatting on the phone with her friend Erika S. She has planned for her friend to come to La Chamade for lunch on monday morning. Ghislaine Marchal tells her she is in a hurry as she needs to get ready to have lunch at her friends' Mr and Mrs K.'s house at 1pm. They end their conversation at 11:50. This will be the last time that her voice was heard by those close to her[citation needed].
Surprised that she hadn't arrived, her friends called her in vain several times from 13:30 onwards. Around 6, Colette K. drove to La Chamade. She rang the doorbell but nobody answered, nor did they to another phone call she made that evening.[citation needed]
On Monday 24 June, Erika S. arrived at 11:30, as planned. She rang, rang again, called, all in vain. Alerted by Mrs Erika S. and Mrs Colette K., a third friend, Francine P., sent an employee of the security company to the house in the early afternoon. The house, dark and silent, shows no trace of a break in, the blinds had only been drawn in the bedroom; on the unmade bed were glasses, a diary; the breakfast tray is in the kitchen. The keys are in the door, which remains unlocked, the alarm is not activated. It seemed as though Ghislaine Marchal had just woken up, but she wasn't there.[citation needed] Throughout the afternoon, the searching begins; the security company employee returns with Francine P. and her attendant. They are quickly joined by Ghislaine Marchal's doctor. They find jewelry, an open hand bag, which doesn't contain any cash, but no trace of the owner.[citation needed]
The cellar door is blocked from inside
Finally, on 24 June 1991 in the evening, the police are alerted and arrive at the house. After searching the house, they become interested in an annexe to the main house. A flight of stairs descends to the cellar, which had not been visited as of yet, and of which the metal door is locked. After unlocking it, the door would still not open any more than 2 cm. One officer pushed with all his might as another feeds his arm through the gap and identifies a folding bed placed against the door on the inside. He manages to violently push it backwards: the door opens a little bit more, but a metal tube, placed on the ground perpendicularly to the door, firmly blocks it on its hinges. The door was warped and twisted by the officer's pushing, enabling him to get a leg through the gap and ''kicking the tube several times''. The final kicks shifts the tube, enabling him to open the door.[citation needed] In January 1992, investigators note that '' the pressure on the door made the tube move, leaving a semi circular imprint on the cement floor''.[citation needed]
Discovery of the body
At the back of the cellar, Ghislaine Marchal is lying face down, her legs pointing to the bag wall, her arms stretched out in front of her on the ground, dressed in only a blood stained bath robe pulled up to above her waist.[citation needed]
The doctor's first observations on the evening of the 24th, and the autopsy of 28 June[citation needed] revealed severe injuries: 5 violent blows to the head, carried out with a rafter, ''to kill and not to knock her out''[citation needed] which caused open cuts on her head and cerebral edema, a V shaped cut on her throat, which missed the trachea and the big arteries of the neck; ten cuts on her thorax and on the abdomen, caused by a ''double edged tapered blade'' measuring 15 to 20cm long, and maximum of 2cm wide, which provoked an eventration and three cuts into the liver; two into her left thigh, one of which produced a thin stream of blood perpendicular to the axle of the leg; the victim thus lay on the floor immobile after having received this injury, for at least long enough for the blood to coagulate, approximately 7 minutes. Injuries and fractures of the hands, a phalange almost ripped off, suggest that she looked to protect herself by bringing her hands to her face, several scrapes on her arms and legs, in particular on the soles of her feed and the back of her knees, as well as traces of dust and cement on her robe suggest that the victim had been dragged on the ground.
Forensic experts note that it had not been possible to determine the order in which the blows were delivered. None of them were immediately fatal, but were after approximately 15 to 30 minutes of agony. Captain Georges Cenci notes that the assassin seemed 'determined, but also clumsy in his movements'.
doctor Jean Pagliuzza, forensic doctor, who had been consulted by the defense lawyers accepted to give his advice to journalist Eve Livet after the gardener was sentenced. He thinks that the murder could have happened in a rapid sequence of only 3 to four minutes. In this type of attack, the first blows have the intention of neutralising the victim by stunning her. After this, the blows carried out with a white weapon follow, very quickly. 'Taking into account the force of the blows, her aggressor was a man [...] he was left handed'. He indicates that the lowest injury was the first to be made. 'The blade hit higher and higher the more the victim collapsed'. The V shaped injury on her neck 'is often found in this type of murder' because of the lateral movement of the head, looking to escape the blows to the neck. The expert specifies that the attacker must certainly have received blood on him. Given the way the blood flowed following this, he estimates that the victim never got up; she died 'rapidly from bleeding'. If she had stood up, the haemorrhage of the liver would have filled the abdominal cavity, something which was not observed by forensic scientists.
Discovery of the inscriptions 'Omar killed me'
The cellar's metal door opens onto a hallway. On the left 'Omar m'a tueé' is written in blood, in well formed letters, one meter above ground level, on a locked white door leading to the wine cellar. A bloody trace is visible under the inscription. In front of the metal door, at the back of the main room, the sentence is partially written again on the door of the boiler room: 'Omar m'a t'. This 'second inscription' as the investigators called it, lower than the first, is barely legible. It is situated on the boiler room's side of the door, but because the door is blocked open, it is facing the entrance of the room and not the boiler room, where the body is.
Who wrote the messages?
If Mrs. Marchal is the author of the message, it points to Omar Raddad. On the other hand, if the message is from the killer, it can not come from Omar Raddad, whom one would not expect to incriminate himself. The killer would therefore have to have arranged the scene so Ghislaine Marchal would be assumed to have authored this false accusation of her gardener.
The wording of the message may seem strange at first: would someone write that they were killed when they were still alive? Judge Renard finds the sentence "weird" [25].
As for the grammatical error, would a cultured woman like Ghislaine Marchal have made this mistake? Several documents indicate that sometimes made errors in her writing, specifically confusing the the past participle with the infinitive [26], [27], for example, she wrote “pay” on a bill already settled, or “I have to water the flowers” (instead of “I have watered the flowers”?). However, this point is strongly contested by the defense and by journalists [28], [29], [30].
Captain Cenci, Coutton J. and the public prosecutor Farret believe that the mistake is a strike against the accused [31]. But according to the graphologist Françoise De Ricci, this kind of common mistake cannot be used to identify the writer (see below) [32].
Are the messages in Ghislaine Marchal’s handwriting?
The first forensic examination of the writings was carried out by Gilles Giessner in July-August, at the request of the investigating judge. He compared the letters on the doors with those of the crosswords from the victim and various other documents. The expert indicates that the letters of the two doors are all from the same person, and that for the first message, this person was kneeling, while she was lying for the second message. The destructured side (messy side?) suggests to him a physiological weakening. The writer “could not have moved to write the end of the second message, as that is where the body was found,” Giessner said, apparently ignoring the fact that the body was not found in front of that door.
During the trial, G. Giessner specified that he "highlighted the total concordance of the letters with those of the writings of Mrs. Marchal". Then, pressed by the defense, he conceded: "It is two-thirds surely the writing of the victim, a third not" [35]
At the request of the defense, a second opinion was given to Ms. Buisson-Debar. It confirms the conclusions of his colleague [10] [36], but not without some contradictions. The second report states that out of ten letters in the first inscription, only five resembled the writing of the victim [37].
In 1999, a new writing expert was brought on by Mr. Gauthier and Ms. Dumont. Presented by the defense in support of a request to review the conviction, this expert concluded that the writing was not that of the victim. [38] The the appeals board (revision board?) then asked Françoise De Ricci and Anne Bisotti for further expertise. They stated that "writings" made in such dissimilar conditions can not be "reasonably compared" [24].
Françoise Bouzon-Thiam, author of a book on the case, observes that the bloody letters have abnormally short downstrokes as though they were interrupted (could also be “hanging” or “suspended) while the letters in Ghislaine Marchal’s crosswords have elongated downstrokes. The contrast is especially clear for the M, A and R. She believes that the letters in the messages reveal them to have been written by the killer.
Who blocked the metal door and how?
Captain Georges Cenci says that the metal door to the cellar is "the only way to access it, and to forbid access" [40]. Given this, and with the victim being the only person present at the scene, she is the only person who could have barricaded herself there. The defense never seems to have contested the first point, only trying to show that the murderer could have gone out through the metal access door while still causing a blockage
As previously mentioned, there was a metal pipe at the base of the door which blocked it from opening. However, the pipe was very thin and there was a gap between the bottom of the door and the ground. The pipe could pass easily under the door, if it was lying flat. How, under these circumstances, could someone use it to stop the door?
In February 1992, during an on-site visit by investigators, magistrates and lawyers, the investigation concludes that Ms. Marchal placed the metal tube on top of a wooden beam which had the effect of lifting it from the floor on the end that was against the door, which prevented the door from opening.
Defense lawyers contested this and argued that the police did not notice this beam on June 24 [43]. They also claimed to have demonstrated that it was possible to press the folding bed against the open door so that when you exit and close it slowly, the bed is drops to block the door from opening. The iron bar could have fallen when the police pushed the bed back [44].
Ève Livet says that the gap under the door is reduced near the hinge because the floor is not level. If the metal bar was near this hinge, its thickness would have been sufficient to block the door, as indicated by movement tracks on the ground. She also thinks that the bed could have momentarily jammed on a large PVC pipe located across the hallway
Detective Roger-Marc Moreau says he has found a way to easily block the door from the outside under the same conditions Captain Cenci believes that it is impossible because of a raised area under the door and that Mr. Moreau never came to see it in person
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The defense’s theory of the crime:
The defense argues that the the violence and the large number of blows show "an almost passionate relentlessness, the expression of an lukewarm (warmed-over?) hatred (the phrase appears to literally mean “reheated” and usually refers to food) which doesn’t fit with personality of Omar Raddad and his good relationship with his employer (see below). Mr. Vergès also points to the fact that no sign of any scratches were found on Omar's hands, nor any blood on his clothes. Since Captain Cenci admits that the crime was not premeditated, Omar would not have had any gloves or extra clothes with him. How could he have avoiding staining his clothes with blood? (see below) [63]?
Additionally, the gravity of the wounds Ghislaine Marchal suffered makes all the physical actions attributed to her unlikely (writing the “right burst” without supporting herself in any way, moving multiple times, blocking the door).
Mr. Vergès also noted that the body of the victim was not found in front of the second inscription. At trial, Me Leclerc, lawyer for the prosecution, said she "pushed herself to write these last words with a dying hand” which suggests that she had written the message in her last breath, just before dying [64]. But she was actually discovered 1.50 m behind this door. The defense also argued that the splayed position of her limbs and her bathrobe being bunched up on the top of her body suggest that she was dragged to that position by her feet.
Another revealing detail for the defense: a clear trail of blood running down the victims inner thigh, perpendicular to the ground and the line of the leg. It would have taken 7 minutes for this blood to coagulate, so if the victim had stood up to do all that was said, that blood would have flowed in another direction, or would have been smeared by the movement of her thighs. The victim therefore could not have moved after her attacker left. [66]. That wound, like a dagger's blow, could have been done to make sure the victim was no longer reacting. "A procedure (move?) known to all hunters" [67]. In addition, the bathrobe was not pierced by this strike, so the injury was inflicted while the garment was already pushed up Marchal’s body [68].
Finally, the thesis of the hedge trimmer, or a kitchen knife as murder weapon does not fit with the description of a tapered double-edged blade, 2 cm wide [69]. Besides, would the gardener have been stupid enough to put away the key to the cellar with the gardening tools, as if to incriminate himself?
Defenders of Omar Raddad presented several scenarios for this crime, with deep divergences between them. [71]
At first, the defense lawyers, Mr. Girard and Mr. Baudoux, admitted that the writing was indeed that of Madame Marchal, who would have written under duress even torture. This is the "diabolical scenario" [71]. However, the experts say that the injuries of the victim are not due to torture, and this argument was rejected by all parties [72].
A new defense lawyer, Mr. Guidicelli, does not believe in the "diabolical scenario"; he does not dispute the report of the first graphologists, but thinks that Madame Marchal was mistaken about the identity of her attacker [73]. This hypothesis was also considered by the investigators (see below). This “friction” between the defense lawyers led Mr. Guidicelli to withdraw from the case [10] [74]
Then Master Vergès took over the case. He formally challenged the conclusions of the graphologists, and believed it was the killer who wrote the message "with his gloved hand", dragged the body of his victim into the boiler room, and likewise wrote the second message with the intention of making it appear that Ghislaine Marchal had written both. This is the “staging theory", which would be presented at the trial [75]. Faced with the impossibility of getting his three lawyers to agree, Omar Raddad"reluctantly" separated from Girard and Baudoux 10 days before the start of the trial [76].
Variation of the staging theory: the murderer(s) could have carried or dragged the unconscious to the doors to make her write the inscriptions by dipping her finger in own blood and guiding her hand. Her head hanging down pressed against the “first door,” leaving the blood stain that appeared below the message. The murderer would have believed that the investigators could identify the fingerprints, which was not possible because the marks were “slid" (possibly “smeared”?). Under this theory, it would be the killer’s writing, because when one guides the hand of someone else to make them write something, it is the handwriting of the one who controls the hand which appears [77] .
Detective Roger-Marc Moreau and the expert in writing Danièle Dumont developed the theory that the incomplete inscription was first drawn by holding the hand of the victim’s corpse. This was no sufficiently legible, so the killers would have written the second inscription themselves, more clearly and in large letters.
Regarding the staging hypothesis, the prosecution raised a question: Who knew that Omar Raddad was going to be near the crime scene that day? The gardener never worked on Sundays as this particular day was also a Muslim religious holiday day [78], he would be assumed to have stayed at home with his family. It is highly unlikely that anyone would have expected him to be at Francine P.’s house that day. Captain Cenci believed that the only two people who knew he was there were Francine P. and Omar Raddad himself [79]. Unless the inscriptions are referring to another Omar.
Some Additional Important Facts : ·Omar Can't Write Or Read , He Can Read Only His Name.
·There Was A Housekeeper That Was Jealous Of The Good Relation Between Omar & Ghiselaine.
·Omar Love To Go & Play In Casino , And There Were Rumors That He Paid Prostitutes For Sex & But Was Later Clear Off.
· There Was Rumor That Omar Was In Need Of Money , And Will Often Ask For His Salary Before The Due Date.
·Omar Radad Would Go On Hunger Strike For Months Often When He Was Imprisoned But Was Force To Break As He Didn't Want To Die , He Just Wanted To Be Prove Innocent And Be Free.
·Omar Radad Wrote A Book About Being The Murder Which Name Is "Pourquoi Moi ?" (Why Me ?)
·A Book Was Written By The Officer (Capitaine Georges Cenci) Who Was In Charge Of The Case Which Name Is : Omar L'a Tueé (Omar Killed Her) & It's Free. (But It's In French Link : http://omarlatuee.free.findex.php?post/2014/02/Lire-gratuitement-Omar-l-a-Tu%C3%A9e-%21
· The Entire Judicial Chronology Of The Case Of Omar Radad : (Can Be Translate In English Don't Worry)
http://omarlatuee.free.findex.php?post/2011/06/Toute-la-chronologie-judiciaire-de-l-affaire-Omar-Raddad
Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Raddad_Affair
Photo Of "Omar M'a Tuer" : https://images.app.goo.gl/s5C9QwtoLPxdskxL8
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The Case Of Omar Radad

THE CASE OF OMAR RADAD The Omar Raddad Affair was a highly publicised criminal trial in Mougins, France in 1991. After the murder of Ghislaine Marchal, Marchal's gardener Omar Raddad was arrested. Defended at his trial by Jacques Vergès, Raddad was convicted 1994, and sentenced to 18 years in prison. Raddad always maintained his innocence. Raddad received a partial pardon from French President Jacques Chirac in 1996 at the request of Moroccan King Hassan II, which reduced his sentence to 4 years and 8 months, and was released from prison in 1998.
The misspelled sentence "Omar m'a tueé" ("Omar killed me"), found written in blood at the crime scene, became a widely used phrase in French society during the 1990s. The last word of the sentence is not properly conjugated; it should read: "Omar m'a tuée". Skeptics contended that this is an odd mistake for a native French speaker to make. The mistake is understandable, however, since both tuer and tuée are pronounced [ty.e]. The case was the subject of the 2011 film Omar m'a tuer by Roschdy Zem.
Description of the events
The facts
Born Ghislaine de Renty, Ghislaine Marchal was the daughter of an industrialist who was engaged in the Resistance during the Second World War and died in deportation. Divorced from her first husband, with whom she had a son, in 1991 she was the wealthy widow of Jean-Pierre Marchal, owner of a famous company that supplied equipment for automobiles[1] , and sister-in-law of the president of the Paris Bar Council Bernard de Bigault du Granrut. She split her time between her main house in Switzerland and her villa La Chamade, which she had built in the hills of Mougins[citation needed].
Ghislaine Marchal disappeared
On Sunday 23 June 1991, around 11:48am, Ghislaine Marchal, having just got out of the shower, is chatting on the phone with her friend Erika S. She has planned for her friend to come to La Chamade for lunch on monday morning. Ghislaine Marchal tells her she is in a hurry as she needs to get ready to have lunch at her friends' Mr and Mrs K.'s house at 1pm. They end their conversation at 11:50. This will be the last time that her voice was heard by those close to her[citation needed].
Surprised that she hadn't arrived, her friends called her in vain several times from 13:30 onwards. Around 6, Colette K. drove to La Chamade. She rang the doorbell but nobody answered, nor did they to another phone call she made that evening.[citation needed]
On Monday 24 June, Erika S. arrived at 11:30, as planned. She rang, rang again, called, all in vain. Alerted by Mrs Erika S. and Mrs Colette K., a third friend, Francine P., sent an employee of the security company to the house in the early afternoon. The house, dark and silent, shows no trace of a break in, the blinds had only been drawn in the bedroom; on the unmade bed were glasses, a diary; the breakfast tray is in the kitchen. The keys are in the door, which remains unlocked, the alarm is not activated. It seemed as though Ghislaine Marchal had just woken up, but she wasn't there.[citation needed] Throughout the afternoon, the searching begins; the security company employee returns with Francine P. and her attendant. They are quickly joined by Ghislaine Marchal's doctor. They find jewelry, an open hand bag, which doesn't contain any cash, but no trace of the owner.[citation needed]
The cellar door is blocked from inside
Finally, on 24 June 1991 in the evening, the police are alerted and arrive at the house. After searching the house, they become interested in an annexe to the main house. A flight of stairs descends to the cellar, which had not been visited as of yet, and of which the metal door is locked. After unlocking it, the door would still not open any more than 2 cm. One officer pushed with all his might as another feeds his arm through the gap and identifies a folding bed placed against the door on the inside. He manages to violently push it backwards: the door opens a little bit more, but a metal tube, placed on the ground perpendicularly to the door, firmly blocks it on its hinges. The door was warped and twisted by the officer's pushing, enabling him to get a leg through the gap and ''kicking the tube several times''. The final kicks shifts the tube, enabling him to open the door.[citation needed] In January 1992, investigators note that '' the pressure on the door made the tube move, leaving a semi circular imprint on the cement floor''.[citation needed]
Discovery of the body
At the back of the cellar, Ghislaine Marchal is lying face down, her legs pointing to the bag wall, her arms stretched out in front of her on the ground, dressed in only a blood stained bath robe pulled up to above her waist.[citation needed]
The doctor's first observations on the evening of the 24th, and the autopsy of 28 June[citation needed] revealed severe injuries: 5 violent blows to the head, carried out with a rafter, ''to kill and not to knock her out''[citation needed] which caused open cuts on her head and cerebral edema, a V shaped cut on her throat, which missed the trachea and the big arteries of the neck; ten cuts on her thorax and on the abdomen, caused by a ''double edged tapered blade'' measuring 15 to 20cm long, and maximum of 2cm wide, which provoked an eventration and three cuts into the liver; two into her left thigh, one of which produced a thin stream of blood perpendicular to the axle of the leg; the victim thus lay on the floor immobile after having received this injury, for at least long enough for the blood to coagulate, approximately 7 minutes. Injuries and fractures of the hands, a phalange almost ripped off, suggest that she looked to protect herself by bringing her hands to her face, several scrapes on her arms and legs, in particular on the soles of her feed and the back of her knees, as well as traces of dust and cement on her robe suggest that the victim had been dragged on the ground.
Forensic experts note that it had not been possible to determine the order in which the blows were delivered. None of them were immediately fatal, but were after approximately 15 to 30 minutes of agony. Captain Georges Cenci notes that the assassin seemed 'determined, but also clumsy in his movements'.
doctor Jean Pagliuzza, forensic doctor, who had been consulted by the defense lawyers accepted to give his advice to journalist Eve Livet after the gardener was sentenced. He thinks that the murder could have happened in a rapid sequence of only 3 to four minutes. In this type of attack, the first blows have the intention of neutralising the victim by stunning her. After this, the blows carried out with a white weapon follow, very quickly. 'Taking into account the force of the blows, her aggressor was a man [...] he was left handed'. He indicates that the lowest injury was the first to be made. 'The blade hit higher and higher the more the victim collapsed'. The V shaped injury on her neck 'is often found in this type of murder' because of the lateral movement of the head, looking to escape the blows to the neck. The expert specifies that the attacker must certainly have received blood on him. Given the way the blood flowed following this, he estimates that the victim never got up; she died 'rapidly from bleeding'. If she had stood up, the haemorrhage of the liver would have filled the abdominal cavity, something which was not observed by forensic scientists.
Discovery of the inscriptions 'Omar killed me'
The cellar's metal door opens onto a hallway. On the left 'Omar m'a tueé' is written in blood, in well formed letters, one meter above ground level, on a locked white door leading to the wine cellar. A bloody trace is visible under the inscription. In front of the metal door, at the back of the main room, the sentence is partially written again on the door of the boiler room: 'Omar m'a t'. This 'second inscription' as the investigators called it, lower than the first, is barely legible. It is situated on the boiler room's side of the door, but because the door is blocked open, it is facing the entrance of the room and not the boiler room, where the body is.
Who wrote the messages?
If Mrs. Marchal is the author of the message, it points to Omar Raddad. On the other hand, if the message is from the killer, it can not come from Omar Raddad, whom one would not expect to incriminate himself. The killer would therefore have to have arranged the scene so Ghislaine Marchal would be assumed to have authored this false accusation of her gardener.
The wording of the message may seem strange at first: would someone write that they were killed when they were still alive? Judge Renard finds the sentence "weird" [25].
As for the grammatical error, would a cultured woman like Ghislaine Marchal have made this mistake? Several documents indicate that sometimes made errors in her writing, specifically confusing the the past participle with the infinitive [26], [27], for example, she wrote “pay” on a bill already settled, or “I have to water the flowers” (instead of “I have watered the flowers”?). However, this point is strongly contested by the defense and by journalists [28], [29], [30].
Captain Cenci, Coutton J. and the public prosecutor Farret believe that the mistake is a strike against the accused [31]. But according to the graphologist Françoise De Ricci, this kind of common mistake cannot be used to identify the writer (see below) [32].
Are the messages in Ghislaine Marchal’s handwriting?
The first forensic examination of the writings was carried out by Gilles Giessner in July-August, at the request of the investigating judge. He compared the letters on the doors with those of the crosswords from the victim and various other documents. The expert indicates that the letters of the two doors are all from the same person, and that for the first message, this person was kneeling, while she was lying for the second message. The destructured side (messy side?) suggests to him a physiological weakening. The writer “could not have moved to write the end of the second message, as that is where the body was found,” Giessner said, apparently ignoring the fact that the body was not found in front of that door.
During the trial, G. Giessner specified that he "highlighted the total concordance of the letters with those of the writings of Mrs. Marchal". Then, pressed by the defense, he conceded: "It is two-thirds surely the writing of the victim, a third not" [35]
At the request of the defense, a second opinion was given to Ms. Buisson-Debar. It confirms the conclusions of his colleague [10] [36], but not without some contradictions. The second report states that out of ten letters in the first inscription, only five resembled the writing of the victim [37].
In 1999, a new writing expert was brought on by Mr. Gauthier and Ms. Dumont. Presented by the defense in support of a request to review the conviction, this expert concluded that the writing was not that of the victim. [38] The the appeals board (revision board?) then asked Françoise De Ricci and Anne Bisotti for further expertise. They stated that "writings" made in such dissimilar conditions can not be "reasonably compared" [24].
Françoise Bouzon-Thiam, author of a book on the case, observes that the bloody letters have abnormally short downstrokes as though they were interrupted (could also be “hanging” or “suspended) while the letters in Ghislaine Marchal’s crosswords have elongated downstrokes. The contrast is especially clear for the M, A and R. She believes that the letters in the messages reveal them to have been written by the killer.
Who blocked the metal door and how?
Captain Georges Cenci says that the metal door to the cellar is "the only way to access it, and to forbid access" [40]. Given this, and with the victim being the only person present at the scene, she is the only person who could have barricaded herself there. The defense never seems to have contested the first point, only trying to show that the murderer could have gone out through the metal access door while still causing a blockage
As previously mentioned, there was a metal pipe at the base of the door which blocked it from opening. However, the pipe was very thin and there was a gap between the bottom of the door and the ground. The pipe could pass easily under the door, if it was lying flat. How, under these circumstances, could someone use it to stop the door?
In February 1992, during an on-site visit by investigators, magistrates and lawyers, the investigation concludes that Ms. Marchal placed the metal tube on top of a wooden beam which had the effect of lifting it from the floor on the end that was against the door, which prevented the door from opening.
Defense lawyers contested this and argued that the police did not notice this beam on June 24 [43]. They also claimed to have demonstrated that it was possible to press the folding bed against the open door so that when you exit and close it slowly, the bed is drops to block the door from opening. The iron bar could have fallen when the police pushed the bed back [44].
Ève Livet says that the gap under the door is reduced near the hinge because the floor is not level. If the metal bar was near this hinge, its thickness would have been sufficient to block the door, as indicated by movement tracks on the ground. She also thinks that the bed could have momentarily jammed on a large PVC pipe located across the hallway
Detective Roger-Marc Moreau says he has found a way to easily block the door from the outside under the same conditions Captain Cenci believes that it is impossible because of a raised area under the door and that Mr. Moreau never came to see it in person
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The defense’s theory of the crime:
The defense argues that the the violence and the large number of blows show "an almost passionate relentlessness, the expression of an lukewarm (warmed-over?) hatred (the phrase appears to literally mean “reheated” and usually refers to food) which doesn’t fit with personality of Omar Raddad and his good relationship with his employer (see below). Mr. Vergès also points to the fact that no sign of any scratches were found on Omar's hands, nor any blood on his clothes. Since Captain Cenci admits that the crime was not premeditated, Omar would not have had any gloves or extra clothes with him. How could he have avoiding staining his clothes with blood? (see below) [63]?
Additionally, the gravity of the wounds Ghislaine Marchal suffered makes all the physical actions attributed to her unlikely (writing the “right burst” without supporting herself in any way, moving multiple times, blocking the door).
Mr. Vergès also noted that the body of the victim was not found in front of the second inscription. At trial, Me Leclerc, lawyer for the prosecution, said she "pushed herself to write these last words with a dying hand” which suggests that she had written the message in her last breath, just before dying [64]. But she was actually discovered 1.50 m behind this door. The defense also argued that the splayed position of her limbs and her bathrobe being bunched up on the top of her body suggest that she was dragged to that position by her feet.
Another revealing detail for the defense: a clear trail of blood running down the victims inner thigh, perpendicular to the ground and the line of the leg. It would have taken 7 minutes for this blood to coagulate, so if the victim had stood up to do all that was said, that blood would have flowed in another direction, or would have been smeared by the movement of her thighs. The victim therefore could not have moved after her attacker left. [66]. That wound, like a dagger's blow, could have been done to make sure the victim was no longer reacting. "A procedure (move?) known to all hunters" [67]. In addition, the bathrobe was not pierced by this strike, so the injury was inflicted while the garment was already pushed up Marchal’s body [68].
Finally, the thesis of the hedge trimmer, or a kitchen knife as murder weapon does not fit with the description of a tapered double-edged blade, 2 cm wide [69]. Besides, would the gardener have been stupid enough to put away the key to the cellar with the gardening tools, as if to incriminate himself?
Defenders of Omar Raddad presented several scenarios for this crime, with deep divergences between them. [71]
At first, the defense lawyers, Mr. Girard and Mr. Baudoux, admitted that the writing was indeed that of Madame Marchal, who would have written under duress even torture. This is the "diabolical scenario" [71]. However, the experts say that the injuries of the victim are not due to torture, and this argument was rejected by all parties [72].
A new defense lawyer, Mr. Guidicelli, does not believe in the "diabolical scenario"; he does not dispute the report of the first graphologists, but thinks that Madame Marchal was mistaken about the identity of her attacker [73]. This hypothesis was also considered by the investigators (see below). This “friction” between the defense lawyers led Mr. Guidicelli to withdraw from the case [10] [74]
Then Master Vergès took over the case. He formally challenged the conclusions of the graphologists, and believed it was the killer who wrote the message "with his gloved hand", dragged the body of his victim into the boiler room, and likewise wrote the second message with the intention of making it appear that Ghislaine Marchal had written both. This is the “staging theory", which would be presented at the trial [75]. Faced with the impossibility of getting his three lawyers to agree, Omar Raddad"reluctantly" separated from Girard and Baudoux 10 days before the start of the trial [76].
Variation of the staging theory: the murderer(s) could have carried or dragged the unconscious to the doors to make her write the inscriptions by dipping her finger in own blood and guiding her hand. Her head hanging down pressed against the “first door,” leaving the blood stain that appeared below the message. The murderer would have believed that the investigators could identify the fingerprints, which was not possible because the marks were “slid" (possibly “smeared”?). Under this theory, it would be the killer’s writing, because when one guides the hand of someone else to make them write something, it is the handwriting of the one who controls the hand which appears [77] .
Detective Roger-Marc Moreau and the expert in writing Danièle Dumont developed the theory that the incomplete inscription was first drawn by holding the hand of the victim’s corpse. This was no sufficiently legible, so the killers would have written the second inscription themselves, more clearly and in large letters.
Regarding the staging hypothesis, the prosecution raised a question: Who knew that Omar Raddad was going to be near the crime scene that day? The gardener never worked on Sundays as this particular day was also a Muslim religious holiday day [78], he would be assumed to have stayed at home with his family. It is highly unlikely that anyone would have expected him to be at Francine P.’s house that day. Captain Cenci believed that the only two people who knew he was there were Francine P. and Omar Raddad himself [79]. Unless the inscriptions are referring to another Omar.
Some Additional Important Facts : ·Omar Can't Write Or Read , He Can Read Only His Name.
·There Was A Housekeeper That Was Jealous Of The Good Relation Between Omar & Ghiselaine.
·Omar Love To Go & Play In Casino , And There Were Rumors That He Paid Prostitutes For Sex & But Was Later Clear Off.
· There Was Rumor That Omar Was In Need Of Money , And Will Often Ask For His Salary Before The Due Date.
·Omar Radad Would Go On Hunger Strike For Months Often When He Was Imprisoned But Was Force To Break As He Didn't Want To Die , He Just Wanted To Be Prove Innocent And Be Free.
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·Omar Radad Wrote A Book About Being The Murder Which Name Is "Pourquoi Moi ?" (Why Me ?)
·A Book Was Written By The Officer (Capitaine Georges Cenci) Who Was In Charge Of The Case Which Name Is : Omar L'a Tueé (Omar Killed Her) & It's Free. (But It's In French Link : http://omarlatuee.free.findex.php?post/2014/02/Lire-gratuitement-Omar-l-a-Tu%C3%A9e-%21
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